Some of you may have heard of the gentleman suing Ray Comfort over his National Atheist Day bumper sticker saying it's hate speech. Well I reached out to this man via email and I would like to put our conversation here. Please pray for this man. I will update any new conversations on another post.
Out of the blue I simply sent an email saying:
"I just wanted to let you know that me and my family are praying for you to know truth.".
He replied:
"I would very much like to know exactly what you said in your prayers.
I would like to know word for word, so I can ask you questions about the
results. Thanks"
I thought that was interesting, almost a test and what would I specifically pray that he could see happen in his life? Here is my response:
"Hi,
That's a great question and I am glad you asked it. Of course I pray for your salvation, but I did add some specific requests.
I prayed your life becomes absolutely miserable. I prayed that things go wrong in every single area of your life. Now before you get angry I want to let you know I do not do this out of spite or because I want you to suffer. It's the exact opposite; I feel a little suffering now during this pilgrimage of this temporary life is well worth it if it brings you to eternal paradise.
Some people need to hit rock bottom before they can remove their pride and cry out to a God that loves you so much that He died for you. So that is my prayer, I am hoping problems, trials, and tribulations pop up in your life so much that it brings you to your knees, and to Calvary and the cross. Feel free to give me updates on my prayer.
With love in Christ,
Paul"
Then I got a wallop back from him:
"Dear Paul,
I want to tell you that you have given me proof that there is no God.
My wife is 63 years old. I am her 3rd husband. Her first two were wife beaters, and very Christian. One actually stuck a gun in her mouth and pulled the trigger.......it misfired. She has curviture of the spine because of Christian men, thinking they were the head of the family.
My wife became an atheist after a baby she was pregnant with, died in the 7th month. She couldn't get a doctor to remove the baby, because that would have legally been an abortion, which were illegal in the 60's.
She was forced to carry the dead fetus for 2 months. That was when she was a Christian. That event made her an atheist. She figured no God would do that to a good, honest and caring woman, unless there were no God.
We met and got married 31 years ago. I do not drink any kind of alcohol at all, because my good "Christian" family were mostly alcoholics.
I also hate sports, mostly because they are too violent. I became an atheist at the age of 15, because I realized that there could not possibly be a God, if there was evil in the world. And there is an abundance of evil in the world. Even a biblical scholar at the American Bible Society in New York City agreed with me that, if God existed, and he was the source of all life, and he was all good..................evil could not exist..............yet it does.........so..........there is no God.
There is no way our life could possibly be better than it is now.
So, for you to ask God to load up our lives with sorrow and problems, is the one sure way that it is guaranteed that we will remain atheists.
P.S. I would like to ask you one question.
Have you ever heard of Living Waters Ministries? With Ray Comfort and Kirk
Cameron..............and would you ever vote for an atheist for President or any other political office?
Pat"
Here is my response and the last conversation we have had thus far:
"Pat,
First I am very sorry to hear of those awful things. I hate to tell you this but your email just proved The Bible is true. The Bible explains that this world is filled with pain and suffering and evil, because it is being run by Satan and ruined with sin. I can honestly say you have no idea what you are talking about, The Bible would be completely wrong if the world wasn't filled with this horror. The good news is this is temporary and if you put your trust in Christ, you will live in the world you envisioned. One with no death, no sorrow, no tears a perfect world is our home and you can have it as a free gift. All the suffering you endured in this life will make the next one even that much better. So your argument that suffering
and evil proves there is no God could not be more incorrect it actually proves The Bible is correct. I wrote a blog about this I would be honored if you would read it. You can find it here http://afightingchanceministry.blogspot.com/2008/05/suffering.html a good portion of it deals with this exact subject.
Second I would like to say those people were NOT Chirstians. Calling yourself a Christian does not make you one. Again these people are proving The Bible to be correct. It states that at this period of time the majority of people will be claiming the name of Christ, but will not be a Christian. When you become a Christian you become a new person. God gives you a new heart with new desires. Yes you still fall into sin, but you don't beat your wife or shove guns in their throat. God made sure that gun would misfire because He loves your wife and is patient waiting for her to come to Him. On that same note, you or your were wife were not Christians just by claiming the name. Growing up in a "Christian" environment does not save you. You have to repent, remove all pride and say God you are right I am wrong, I want you to be the Lord of my life and I completely surrender my own will. You have to trust in Him, not believe in Him. If I believed in parachutes and jumped out of an airplane I would still splatter on the ground. I have to trust in the parachute and put it on, it's the same with The Lord Jesus.
You also have to accept His payment for your sins. You can pay for your sins when you die and go to Hell, or you can let God pay your fine for you. God is just and has to punish sin, but He does not want you to go to Hell. That is why He died for you to pay your fine, you just have to accept it. You decide, you pay your fine or let your Father. When you do this God will reveal Himself to you and you will know all that stuff in the past was not Christianity. Your life will never be the same.
Lastly, yes I have heard of Living Waters, in fact I talked to Ray Comfort yesterday about you on the radio. As far as voting for an atheist, I am sure I have done that a lot. I don't think there ever was a candidate that was a born again Christian in any elections I have taken part in. Now these people may call themselves Christian, but their actions prove they are false converts or just saying it for the votes. There are very few true Christians in politics, so I would imagine I probably already have voted for one. You might be asking more specific, a candidate that loudly proclaims there is no God. In that case it is unlikely, but maybe his counterpart proclaims he worships Satan, so it would all depend on the circumstance, but yes, it is possible that I could vote for an atheist. Would you vote for a born again Christian that loudly proclaims there is no other name under Heaven in which
we can be saved, and that name is Jesus Christ?
I enjoy talking to you, I hope something brings you and your wife to your knees and reach out and touch the hand of the True Living God, Jesus Christ. God is patiently waiting for the both of you. He came to rescue the broken and bruised. He has kept you alive because He wants you very badly. Please repent and trust Christ today.
With love in Christ,
Paul"
Thursday, September 24, 2009
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Paul, I see by all of your writings here you are really talking the talk.
I had some recent interaction with you not following through on an arrangement when I furnished something you really had to have and now not you are NOT paying a debt owed for that. In fact you are ignoring my requests completely.
SO my question to you is are you walking the walk and really behaving like an Honest Christian? Would Jesus be proud?
You should be concerned about Delightful Karma, as Karma can actually haunt you if you mess with it. Please pay me my $200 as you said you would and play straight.
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